UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON
AT TACOMA
CHERYL LINDSEY SEELHOFF,
a married woman,
Plaintiff, Tacoma, Washington
vs.
PAT and SUE WELCH,
husband and wife,
Defendants.
Docket No. C97-5383FDB
Tacoma, Washington
September 8, 1998
Trial
Volume 6
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE THE HONORABLE FRANKLIN D. BURGESS
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE, and a Jury.
APPEARANCES:
For the Plaintiff:
BARBARA J. DUFFY
GWENDOLYN PAYTON KLEIN
Lane Powell Spears Lubersky
1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 4100
Seattle, Washington 98101-2338
For the Defendants:
RUDY R. LACHENMEIER
LORI DeDOBBELAERE
Lachenmeier, Enloe & Rall
9600 S.W. Capitol Highway
Portland, Oregon 97219
Court Reporter: Teri Hendrix
Union Station Courthouse, Room 3100
1717 Pacific Avenue
Tacoma, Washington 98402
(253) 593-6545
Proceedings recorded by mechanical stenography, transcript
produced by Reporter on computer.
Excerpt from transcripts Volume 6, September 8, 1998 Pages 1091-1317
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11581 CROSS-EXAMINATION
2 BY MS. DUFFY:
3 Q. Mr. Harris, in 1994 you considered The Teaching Home to be a
4 premier publication in the home schooling industry; isn't that
5 right?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. And you thought The Teaching Home and Sue Welch were a very
8 important part of the home schooling movement; correct?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. And you advertised in The Teaching Home; correct?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. Now, Mary Pride, do you know her as the author of the Big
13 Book of Home Schooling; isn't that right?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. And you advertised in her magazine, Practical Homeschooling;
16 correct?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. Now, in 1994 you believe that Cheryl Lindsey's profile in
19 the Christian home schooling industry was rising; isn't that
20 right?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. In fact, you wanted her to speak at as many of your
23 conferences that you could get her to speak at; correct?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. She had name recognition and she could draw a crowd; isn't
11591 that right?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. And, of course, she spoke at some of the Christian Life
4 Workshop conferences that you sponsor; isn't that right?
5 A. Yes.
6 Q. And you, as you mentioned, would tape some of her
7 presentations given at the conferences and people would contact
8 the Christian life Workshop to obtain copies of those tapes;
9 isn't that right?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. And, in fact, you had booked her to speak at a conference
12 that you had planned on having in Atlanta in August of 1994;
13 correct?
14 A. That's correct.
15 Q. Now, Claude Lindsey, before he called you at the CHEO
16 convention, you didn't remember ever speaking to the man; isn't
17 that right?
18 A. That's correct.
19 Q. And, of course, you've never met him?
20 A. No.
21 Q. And Claude told you that he had confessed this relationship
22 with Rick Seelhoff to her pastor; isn't that right?
23 A. Could you repeat that.
24 Q. I misstated it. Claude told you"that Cheryl had confessed
25 her relationship with Rick Seelhoff to her Pastor, Joe Williams;
11601 correct?
2 A. No, I don't believe the word "confessed" was used, but he
3 caught her and she had admitted it.
4 MS. DUFFY: Okay. I would like to move to publish the
5 deposition of Mr. Harris.
6 THE COURT: What page?
7 MS. DUFFY: Page 117 of your deposition. Lines 1
8 through 4.
9 A. Okay
10 BY MS. DUFFY:
11 Q. Are you with me there, sir?
12 A. 1 through 4 on page 117.
13 Q. Now, you remember when you gave that deposition, don't you?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. And you were under oath when you gave that testimony; isn't
16 that right?
17 A. Yes, I was.
18 Q. Okay. You recall in that deposition I'd asked you -- and I
19 will read you the question. I want you to read the answer.
20 A. Right.
21 Q. "How did the pastor come up in this conversation with
22 Claude?"
23 Why don't you read us your answer?
24 A. Okay.
25 "He said Cheryl had confessed to the thing and that the